MFS Champion

[AndyT]

This is only an idea fellas, but whaT do you think.

There are already a number of MFS matches being advertised, which cover most of the country.

Mancs match at Boarder
Scones alders match
BWFCs Drayton Match
Poolfodders Arena match
Rickys Rolfs Match
Pikeys and BNFs Rainbow matches.

Do you think that we should take the section winners from these matches (numbers of which to be decided) and invite them to a FINAL which could be held at the Glebe (possibly) The pegging fee for thefinal could be paid by MFS and hopefully a sponsor could provide a suitable prize for the winner.

I was going to organise a series of matches to find the finalists, but I fell that another set of matches could restrict what people could afford.

I will gladly do the admin for this, if you want it ( if Scone and Ricky will help when Ineed it)

I'll get a poll attached to this post and leave it for a month to see what you lot think.

Andy

[bwfc01]

What a good idea.

Was you thinking outside the box. :D

[Chum Mixer]

Sounds good to me, my only question does it matter how many of these matches you fish ?

I'm of the impression that some may fish all of them :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Pikey]

The anglers on the Rainbow Trust matches wont necessarily be MFS members. Why not use the Steve Ramsay weekend instead of those matches.

[Matt Love]

Good idea but some of use would be excluded because of location and current match calendars :(

I don't mind travelling to a venue I have never fished if it is the final but there's little point travelling to a venue I have never fished to try and qualify.

Clearly the qualifying matches need to be 'MFS only matches' so you don't end up with qualifiers that aren't members so would it be possible to arrange specific matches in all regions that are dedicated qualifiers i.e maybe we could have one in the south east at Monks or Hartleylands or similar? It would be like a mini Fisho ;)

By the way, I don't regard Wlillinghurst or Willow Park or Bury Hill as south east :eek:

So basicly, can we have a match right on my doorstep? :D

[Milo]

i suggest full members only.

[RobB]

I have voted for it Andy. I will only be able to make one of the match's due to work commitments but that's just hard luck. Make the rules then stick to them mate.

[Matt Love]

Milo, am I not a full member then? I thought Animal was going to make me a full member but maybe he hasn't done it yet or I am just confused?

[Milo]

matt my post was not directed at you mate but the club in general:confused:

[Matt Love]

I wasn't offended mate but I was asking if you can tell whether I am a full member coz I can't see how I can tell.

If I was a full member then what would I be able to do on here that an ordinary member could not do? :(

[squeaky roller]

matt if you have paid a fiver then you're a member :rolleyes:
i like the idea of regional areas...

[Happydangler]

I think it is a good idea Andy and one where the regional organisers can really make a contribution.

There is going to be a lot of pressure on peoples diaries with all the matches being organised across the various sites and might be a good idea to run regional qualifying matches on the same day in different parts of the country. For example if we had 6 regions we could run 3 match dates with 2 regions on each or if pressure demands even 3 regions over 2 dates... .

I know this will restrict the number of qualifiers people can fish but I am not sure that is a bad thing as we should think of the qualifiers as a local challenge in my personal view.

We also need to think about the Saturday/Sunday conflict some people have. There are a lot of members (and prospective members) who for one reason or another cannot fish regular Saturdays because of work. If the site is to live up to its "inclusive" ethic, we will have to consider running matches on both days of the weekend.

Good time to start planning and we should try to avoid clashes that may involve our members where possible.

[Billy-No-Fish]

Andy, don't forget the Teams of 6 match, that will be (hopefully) a large one again. It can replace the Pikey Rainbow matches. Also of course it is Northern-ish so will give poepl up and over here a chance to qualify.

[simon-e]

A1 idea tit:D
You have my support and if you need any help you have my number;)

[Matt Love]

matt if you have paid a fiver then you're a member :rolleyes:
i like the idea of regional areas...

Animal said he would join me up free of charge because I am a contributor but maybe he hasn't got round to it just yet :o

[Happydangler]

Matt chances are if you can post and see Chat then Animal has done what he said.

[Matt Love]

Oh right I see, I thought for a minute there might be a 'gay bar' area :eek::D

[peter9000uk]

How about using Scone's regional map for the areas.

Matt, no disrespect mate but Kent is not the South East......... it's nearly France!
and don't take it so seriously.. these matches are abou the craic as much as the fishing

I you ever fancy Rolfs get in touch and you can jump in with me as I am probably about halfway for you
J11 M25

[Milo]

"you can jump in with me " pete stop i/ lol

[Matt Love]

How about using Scone's regional map for the areas.

Matt, no disrespect mate but Kent is not the South East......... it's nearly France!
and don't take it so seriously.. these matches are abou the craic as much as the fishing

I you ever fancy Rolfs get in touch and you can jump in with me as I am probably about halfway for you
J11 M25

I know what you mean Pete but turning up at a new venue when you don't know anyone is a bit like gatecrashing a party without any mates or a date!

Maybe I should just just muck-in one day and see if I can do any good on a strange venue?

[Scone]

I'll put a fat wedge on you NOT doing any good first time at Rolfs...the place has destroyed many a class act..:cool:

[Matt Love]

That's what they said the first time I fished Monks in the summer :D

[peter9000uk]

Believe me Matt,Scone speaks the truth. Grown men have be known to weep after a visit there. Not that any of this lot fall into that category


I fished an open at Monks once camesecond and never been back since, didn't like the place. Far too barren for my liking.

Hartleylands is OK but the fish are a bit on the small side compared to Rolfs

[duffman]

Top idea Andy.Definately best to try not to add extra matches to the calander and ,funds permitting,a final somewhere nice is a spiffing notion !:)

Are some of the matches mentioned already full ?

Rick's idea for an inter-region bash might be another way to find finalists,and there's always the option to allocate 'x' number of final places to each region and allow each region to find it's own way of choosing who goes forward?

[Matt Love]

Believe me Matt,Scone speaks the truth. Grown men have be known to weep after a visit there. Not that any of this lot fall into that category


I fished an open at Monks once camesecond and never been back since, didn't like the place. Far too barren for my liking.

Hartleylands is OK but the fish are a bit on the small side compared to Rolfs

Yeh Pete Monks is very boring really. The fish at HLF are 1lb - 3lb average unless you are on the Res and they get bigger but it is a very fair venue and you know if you win a match there you have done it through skill and not luck of the draw like many other venues.

I hear the fish at Rolfs are big and fight hard but how peggy is it?

[Scone]

Got nowt to do with the peggy-ness at Rolfs...It's all about "knowing" how they want it on a given day...massive weights are possible, but like I said; VERY good anglers have been known to get very frustarted...(Like Steve Gregory etc etc..)

I don't care how good you think you are (not trying to insult), but you'll be very lucky to crack Rolfs first trip...

[peter9000uk]

Pretty much most pegs have thrown up huge weights at one time or another, but as with any venue there are pegs/areas that are more consistant than others.

3 lbers are tiddlers at Rolfs. 8 lb+ you are looking for on a regular basis

I've seen em to 20+ in the matches and doubles are the order of the day

There are huge chub in there too, around 8 lb and also a British record golden Orfe which has been caught more than once.

Get your name down and come for the craic


You would love Alders BTW

[Scone]

Alders aint easy either...it's just SOLID;)..!!!!!!

[Animal]

Matt you are a full paid up member mate.

Great idea Andy I love it.

Milo i agree with it being full members only, as fishing the get togethers is a perk of being a full member of matchfishing-scene. The only problem i can see with that being Jims match at border as it was advertised on the other site so not everyone fishing will be a full member of this one.

Perhaps we could only count the results of full members on that match Andy. Would that be possible mate.

Matt Get there mate you wont feel like a gatecrasher when you arrive i promise, our meets are not like that.

Maybe we could add another match a bit further down the country to enable them funny suverners to come out to play.

I will support this in any way i can guys and yes MFS would pay for the final and sort some good prizes out.

Goes without saying really.

Hope all them ramblings make sense. ;)

[Pebs]

If I can swing it, anyone fancy a day on the Ouse ??? We could have a match there

[AndyT]

OKEY DOKEY! It sounds like the idea is ok in principle, but I'll still leave the poll running.

I actually did think about the rainbow matches not being totaly for MFS members, and that has buggered the original idea up a tad, but I included this to try and cover all the regions. As I said, I was originally going to run a specific series of matches to get the finalists, but didnt want to pressure folk on the money side, as well as the calendar filling up pretty quickly.

Wha I will do now then, is sod off for abit, and when I return I will post a list of matches that will be the qualifiers and the number of anglers going through from that round, so some of you will be getting pms or phone calls. :)

I'll post the details on a seperate thread.

Pebs, a rivery match could be good mate, Matt, stop being a wuss andget on some of the matches, it really aint about the winning (much) but about having a good giggle, catcing a few and then getting the pi$$ ripped out of you for completely buggering up thebest peg on the pond etc etc :D

Ta Ta

Le T

[Matt Love]

Thanks Animal ;)

Sounds like I need to give this Rolfs place a go, I have heard it is a bit hairy there. It sounds like a place where everyone fishes paste close in or do they catch shallow there as well?

I would like a chance to fish beyond my usual waters, Alders is another water I want to try, maybe I will find out the score there and fish an open. I wouldn't mind meeting up with Trev and the other GOT blokes there.

I will keep an eye on the match calendar then and when the weather warms up I will see if I can get on one or two of your matches.

I will also keep an eye out for these qualifying matches!

[squeaky roller]

matt...they are not that a serious match,its basically a load of mates having a fish..its all about going home with a smile on your face:D

[Matt Love]

I'm not sure I want a smile on my face like yours though :p

[Chum Mixer]

matt...they are not that a serious match,its basically a load of mates having a fish..its all about going home with a smile on your face:D


Thats what I'm fishing them for, to meet people and have a bloody good craic, and possibly win a pound of next peg .:D

[Slider]

they aint joking about Rolfs mate, I have seen good anglers leave that place considering selling their kit, and throwing it all over the place too !!

I have fished it now probably 6 times a year for 4 years ( which is nt regular ) and Im only just starting to know how you have to fish to get the big bags. I still get ****ed off with it sometimes but I love the place, its infectious.

[squeaky roller]

i think last year was the most frustrating time i had there..not just me but near enough every body,but then again every were fished very strange last summer:(

[Slider]

That day you were pegged opposite me on 15/16 and it fished rock hard !! I couldnt beleive it

[squeaky roller]

me and you both....my peg was full of fish but they were just sitting just under the surface and wouldn't take a bean..looked like they were gasping..very strange day:mad:

[Matt Love]

What's the problem there then?

Hitting bites?
Landing them?
Loads of fish and no bites?

What is frustrating about it?

[squeaky roller]

i honestly thought i was going to totally blank that day...but four skimmers saved my bacon, i also didn't have the heart to take herbies pound off him ...he was near enough in tears through frustration...lol

[squeaky roller]

matt...you had to be there :(

[Matt Love]

So what are you saying? It's hard to catch there? You can't catch carp from some pegs? Or did you just have a bad day in cold weather?

Why do good anglers go there and end up frustrated?

[Scone]

Because the mood of the fishery changes on an almost daily basis...

I've been there and done 150 pound and could have tipped back...came about 9th I think...I've also been there and had 25 pound of silvers and ended up 4th...

You know what it's going to fish like from the first put-in...

They also back off the pole up in the air...long lining doesn't seem to do any good either...they either have-it or they don't...Pellet wag has done some damage, but in the summer months, it's paste all the way...it isn't "peggy" in the true sense either...one week they are in pegs so-and-so, the next they are somewhere else...

The other frutrating thing about the place is that you can be blanking for four hours, and unless you know when to stick at it, it's either 200 pound in the last hour or it's doing your head in chopping and changing. Andy May came with us last year and drew ok...peg 10 I think...he was doing his usual up-in-the-air at 16 metres and had only got about 40 pound with just over an hour to go...ended up with 240-ish because he stuck at it...not many of us would do that.

If you like paste, then generally, you'll always have a good day...be prepared to feed 15 pints of pellet though. Saying that, you can nearly always have a ton kinder-potting koof-all, but if the fish aren't in your swim, you've gotta keep it piling in...handsfulls are sometimes not enough..!! When they are really on the paste, we cut the top 4 inches off a 3 litre pop-bottle and stick that on the end of the pole...fill with pellet (cos the feeding has to be kept tight once they are there) add an orange-sized lump of paste and wham...!

It's one of those places which is unlike any other I know...just when you think you've sussed it out, it smacks you in the teeth.

[Chum Mixer]

Scone your bait bill must be HUGE everytime I read where you have fished be-it the glebe or Rolfs theres a massive amount of bait going in, sounds an expensive hobby you've got mate.

[Scone]

I'm one of the lucky one's mate...I'm sponsored by GOT Baits, so unless it's fishery pellet, I'm on the cheap..

Rolfs isn't all about piling it in, I'm just saying that you CAN get through loads on the right day.

The Glebe IS different though...the great thing about it is that you can take a stone of crap groundbait, ball it in and catch 70 pound of skimmers...alternatively, you can take a pint of maggots and fish the feeder for a great net of small carp...in the summer though, to do any good there, you need about a dozen tins of corn and at least a gallon of hemp...all cheap enough I think you'll agree.

The Glebe IS THE best fishery on the planet in my book...you can go and "target" what you want to catch and how you want to catch 'em...BRILLIANT..!!!

[Matt Love]

Rolfs sounds interesting, not like turning up at a predictable venue and doing the same thing day-in, day-out.

I think with venues containing mainly large fish, they seem to move up and down in the water a lot and the bigger fish don't compete up in the water as much as the small ones. Maybe a combination of waggler and conker bomb could do well there.

I will have to get along there one day in the summer.

Scone, I didn't realise you were sponsored by GOT Baits, nice one mate ;)

[Jaap Stam]

yes ,aparently they have any old waif or stray. lol:D

[Scone]

Oi, Oi Saveloy...:p

[stevie b]

Good idea AndyT. If you want a Yorkshire match organising let me know. Woodlands, The Oaks and numerous other quality venues in Yorkshire are all possible.

PS, Rolfs is a quality venue. I had two second places there in 2008. Only beaten by the flyer each time!!! (only fished it them two occasions too in 2008 and only four times in total)

[Slider]

Another vote for the Glebe, I would love to live just 60-70mins closer and it would be a viable weekly venue.

[Scone]

Stevie...get some organised dude...!!:D

[AndyT]

Steve, a match at Woodlands would be nice, I love the place Partridge and Skylark I think are the ones I liked the most. I would also like Herbie to run a match in his part of the country!
It would be nice to have a round somewhere towards Wales for the sheep****gers, any volunteers? ideas?

I will get this nailed boys in the near future.

[duffman]

I can get something organised in South Wales,Andy, if there is sufficient interest.Ian Heaps' place Holgan Farm is close to me,or there's Whitesprings near Swansea or Cefn Mably near Cardiff (though that might be booked up) all are good fisheries.

[Happydangler]

I'd encourage anyone to organise an event if they want to and will provide any help or support needed. But can I suggest if planning a match people keep an eye on the MFS calendar and dates being proposed elsewhere. There are some members here who fish club, open and other forum matches and whilst clashes can't be completely avoided anything that can be done to minimise them benefits our members and others...

For the record, Eels (Ian McCulloch) has already contacted me about running matches at Rolfs on behalf of MFS. I am going to suggest he runs a couple of Saturday matches for us and maybe a Wednesday or two in the summer. Don;t think we'll have any problem filling them given the response to the May 1st match and if we do can always top-up with locals.....

[duffman]

You raise good points,Rick.Although if something is to be organised specific to Andy's vision of the MFS champs,then it will need to be with AndyT's blessing.

[AndyT]

like i've said, we dont want too many matches, as I'm sure people will be affected by the "credit crunch" at some point. I'll get a list of matches from the already done file, and then ask for others to be arranged to suit the members from far reaching areas.

But if you do want to run a match for MFS anyway, then get it organised as these are going to count for the MFS club angler of the year, for which Animal has created a seperate spread sheet and criteria. I imagine that this will also result in a tasty prize for the over all winner?!?!???


Good ere init!

Le T

[welshmagic]

White Springs would be good for Wales,fished a Drennan Super League round on there a few years ago so will take plenty of anglers and can throw up some good weights. After regularly fishing Cefn mably for years I had to move away for work a few months after the new lakes were up and running. The few times I fished them they were good and I see the weights are pretty impressive these days

[herbie]

sorted mr tit. viaduct will be booked and i like the idea of all qualifiers being same day. hard to do this year i appreciate but good idea for the future. if you hold the final at the glebe can i come and watch:D

[herbie]

If I can swing it, anyone fancy a day on the Ouse ??? We could have a match there

tell me when and i will be there pebs great idea

[Animal]

Herbie my luvvvveeeerrrrrrrrrr you will qualify for the final mate.......pound on it ha ha.:p

By the way get my pound nice and shiny as its coming home at border matey boy

[herbie]

no chance paul bunch of bandits at viaduct just wait till bodge,s boys find out they never leave there. i think le tit should be allowed wild cards at least 5 for the final. :D

[RobB]

That's only way he will get to the final :D

[Hathers]

:) Matt, you really need to get our more, there is a whole fishing world beyond the M20/M26/A229. Rolfes will suit your heavy feeding style, but take heed of of what others are saying, it can be one tricky muvver! Your journey home might not be to pleasant during the week either, it's taken me 3 hours on previous visits and your a further hour away.

These matches are similar to the MD's apart from one thing, there can be some real quality anglers fishing (sorry MD's)

TRY it !:cool:

[simon-e]

I like Rolf's and the place has been good to me:D
It has done a fair few heads in over the years as most people think its easy fishing and thats the one thing its not.
You can do a ton on most pegs at Rolf's but to do 200lb takes some doing in my opinion.
Saying that you can do 200lb in the last 1.5hrs on the right peg;) the trick is to sort the feeding out in time to get a big bag.

[Matt Love]

:) Matt, you really need to get our more, there is a whole fishing world beyond the M20/M26/A229. Rolfes will suit your heavy feeding style, but take heed of of what others are saying, it can be one tricky muvver! Your journey home might not be to pleasant during the week either, it's taken me 3 hours on previous visits and your a further hour away.

These matches are similar to the MD's apart from one thing, there can be some real quality anglers fishing (sorry MD's)

TRY it !:cool:

I will travel further sometime Hathers but my first year back in angling needed to be focused on all these new baits and my local venues ;)

Maybe I will get a chance to try out your manor this summer, I do like the sound of Rolfs! :D

[herbie]

viaduct fisheries booked for may 10th 2009 sorted:D

[AndyT]

niceone Herbs, I'll get a post sorted tonight about this. Are you running it for MFS members only?

[herbie]

yes and i made most of the barstewerds join . should i struggle then maybe i will let a few non members in:D

[Gotgaz]

rolfs is no probs as long as you have 5 years of your life to devote to it ;)

[Milo]

i done the best part of4yrs and still only 254lbs best weight,still loads to learn on how to draw like gaz.lol